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Right, fair enough. I didn't get upset about Blakroc.

But, I DID hate the way BK portrayed themselves infront of the mainly all-black cast.

I have lots of black friends, even in the mountains I have...'brothers'.

I have never tried to 'act' a certain way in front of them. I understand there is a need to act 'cool' but fuck...I can't believe how Dan sucked that black cock.

Even with the new found 'pop attibutions' attached to BK I struggle to see my Chulahoma-oozing sex band 'ackin' all cool 'n shit' around a few brothers!

It's a shit thread, fair one. But I have just re-watched the BKBR Webisodes and I'm cringing at the "We immediatley thought of you..." DA spouted at Raekwon 3 times in a row.

Fuck's sake, Dan. You wrote The Breaks, Thickfreakness and "When it comes to pride, and other sinful matters..."

Don't change yourself for others benefit. If I met you, you and I would be playing in front of the chiminea drinking port and smoking vanilla-flavoured cigars not giving a shit about the world. And I'm a big fucking deal.

I've got that face that says, "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed..."

It wasn't a totally bad album. There's about 3 tracks that are worth listening to. I felt that Pat and Dan were sort of forced into using the rappers on it.

Again, not what I expected from the I Got Mine fellas.

This is such a pious thread. Appologies.

I agree that maybe Dan seemed a little giddy when meeting some of the guys, but let's not forget how much Dan and Pat Love WU-TANG, especially GZA and Raekwon, hell the intro music for tbk shows is liquid swords. Not sure if they have met them before but you could tell it was a dream come true for them in a way. I guess I viewed them as more star struck in the videos instead of trying to act all cool.

You're totally missing the point, my friend.

you might not think Raekwon is a big deal

Quite the opposite. I KNOW that Wu and Raekwon are huge. I've got some ooooold skool Wu on a cassette tape somewhere!

You mention that Dan wrote the Breaks which seems to put him on a higher echelon than any of these rappers to you

Wrong again. Bear with me. For someone who was creative enough to write that, I would imagine 'coolness' to seap out of the very pores of the person. Not to be arrogant, but not to be a starstruck nerd either.

I don't really understand how your fantasy of what you'd do if meeting Dan applies to their situation

You're not doing great so far, are you? The point being that I have met celebrities in the past and just did my own thing...as I would if I were to meet Dan and Pat. If they didn't want to know, I certainly wouldn't change my normal humorous style to what we see in the Webisodes.

Oh and, fantasy? Come on, pal. Now you're just romanticising it.

And lastly...

Anyways, I will say that agree that there is a strange vibe during most of these videos, which I interpret as just plain awkwardness

So you DO get my point?

Lumberjack, thank you for the prompt elaboration.
I wasn't trying to invalidate your points just doing my part in the conversation!

So I guess I do see the awkwardness you speak of in the webisodes, but I just interpret it as just plain old nice-to-meet-you awkwardness. Dan and Pat still come across humble and down as always, IMHO. I dunno. Damon Dash however, though I know he played a large roll in assembling the cast that comprised Blakroc, just seems pretty annoying to me. I'm sure you agree as this point has made by umm, pretty much all of us before! I feel like his presence maybe even contributes to or is the key x-factor to all the awkwardness! He's just this lone salesman on an island of artists, but he's also sort of the captain of the ship. So the project is maybe awkward from day 1. I'm not saying he's a dick and I don't doubt that he seems to have some very genuine enthusiasm about the project and getting it done, but his head is apparently in a different place than Dan and Pat's and many of the MC's that were in the studio!

At the end of the day, let's also not forget that
A) Intentionally of not, people often behave differently when a camera is on them
B) We're just random folks on the internet making broad speculations based on nine minute webisodes.

But that's great! I loved these webisodes and I remember when they had me so stoked to finally here Blakroc. It's not often that you get a fly-on-the-wall look at any artist's actual studio time. I think it was a good campaign.

Hehe and finally.... I'm romanticizing?

If I met you, you and I would be playing in front of the chiminea drinking port and smoking vanilla-flavoured cigars not giving a shit about the world. And I'm a big fucking deal.

To answer you both ^^^

Great retort, BD, especially regarding Damon Dash. You're right he is a salesman. He even admitted it in the first video "I'm looking at this like a business model...". And yes, there was some tongue-in-cheek to the romanticising remark. Touché, my man.

And, the flame; can't disagree with you there, pal. As said in my previous posts its a stupid thread. I'm not gonna use the excuse that I was drunk...

I was drunk though.

On a side note - Are you embarrassed because you don't like us DISCUSSING The Black Keys on a Black Keys discussion board if its in a negative way?

I think as people who invest money into the band, we have a right and an obligation to nit pick and change the focus from "I love BK, bro..." to "Hmmm, in my opinion, that's not cool..."

Do you not think you sound a little uptight?

What is it with you Americans and your typical lack of understanding sarcasm?

And let's not get off track here. I felt the 'awkwardness' BD pointed out affected their music, as did Damon Dash. It doesn't matter if they're black, they could Russian or French or flaming homosexuals. The point is, well, the REAL point is you don't like having your favourite band discussed in such a candid and fruitful way. Albeit more a drunken observation than intelligent dialogue.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm dying to know how bad you want to throw the 'Racism Card'.

We all know talking about black people is synonymous with it.

I suppose the only reaction I wanted to provoke - if I was conscious of doing that - was to see what other peoples views on the vibe in the place was. My problem was that I wrote in a way *I* found funny or comical enough to avoid the 'racism issue'.

One of my biggest ideals of BK is how they find everything funny and take very little seriously. I'd love to have seen them clowning around in the studio and creating a presence of their own rather than sitting in the background.