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American Idol's Casey James does 'I Got Mine'

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The Black Keys are not highly derivative. And you bring up Muddy Waters, TBK are more are more influenced by Lightning Hopkins than Muddy Waters. R.L. Burnside and Junior Kimbrough if you wanna get real specific. They don't sound like Muddy at all. Electric Mud is all you've got, there are closer bluesmen to compare them to than that.

After Brothers came out it became clear they are influenced just as much by rap and hip hop and soul music just as much as blues. Nobody combines those 3 elements like TBK do. Nobody sounds like TBK. I don't mind unoriginal music, but don't falsely label TBK as unoriginal.

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You can look at old blues but none of the old blues bands had as much rock as the black keys. And none of the garage rock bands have as much blues as the black keys.

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i mainly like blues rock - not strictly blues. electric mud is the only album i have from muddy. thanks for the tip on junior. i've obviously always respected RL and the like, but i tend to gravitate more towards uptempo blues rock - like bo diddley's early 70's albums - hence why i like electric mud. and i'm a huge johnny winter fan.

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dothetrunk - 22 minutes ago  » 

oaktown_dimond - 18 minutes ago  » 
then you would look like you know a thing or two.

I know right. This guy even compared them to ZZ top for christ sake. I mean I can sort of see why, they are both blues/rock bands. But other than that they sound nothing alike to me

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alright sparky. there's a reason why i chose zz top... i like bands who's songs are mainly driven by distinctive guitar rhythm motifs. the earlier black keys albums do this and billy gibbons is a master at creating INSANE rhythm guitar signatures that define many of zz top's songs.

besides, listen to dan's rhythm guitar - quite a few of the earlier TBK songs have that languid, heavy blues rhythm that pulls the beat (like in funk, only much slower) - that's very much in line with billy gibbon's playing style. NOT saying that TBK sound like zz top, but there are influences there.

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and their later album, rythmeen - one of my favorites - the drop tuning is NUTS!

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Danleary - 4 hours ago  » 

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oaktown_dimond - 18 minutes ago  » 
then you would look like you know a thing or two.

I know right. This guy even compared them to ZZ top for christ sake. I mean I can sort of see why, they are both blues/rock bands. But other than that they sound nothing alike to me

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I think Billy and Dan share a lot of influences with the same older blues and rock n roll guitarists and that's why they have a similar sound. I don't think Billy directly influenced Dan's playing in a significant way though.

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my mayer comparison with said idolist, was nothing to do with them both being "derivative" which everyone seems to be using to sound a lot more mature than they obviously are... it was to do with the cleanliness to music in general. thats what i'm not a big fan of anymore, don't get me wrong i used to. but i much prefer the swampier, dirtier blues. Of course all blues bands, rock n roll bands, psychedelic bands, fuck knows nearly every band going is at least partly derivative of an earlier incarnation. in fact i'm interested to see if there are any bands that come across as totally original... can't think of many british bands that are in the mainstream at least, no point naming fuckin joe bloggs round the corner who plays a teaspoon with his tongue.

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all very true - and the "polish" to today's bands is even more overdone thanks to pro tools and the like. so, even "grungy music" sounds polished.

what i dig about the black keys is at least their earlier albums were a throwback to the raw visceral quality that you hear in early CCR albums. just intense...

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and casey james is an example of how the music industry has been stuck with their notion of what "marketability" means to them. casey would still be playing bars in austin if not for american idol. and he would NEVER have been signed to sony if he wasn't "pretty".

point being the industry is still looking for looks and are too lazy to find talent themselves - they won't sign an unproven artist. they have to have some sort of following for them to even look at a musician. which is why the industry is eating shit nowadays - talented bands can get a following and sell records(mainly mp3s) and advertise tour dates on their own through the web.

TheHokes - 8 hours ago  » 
my mayer comparison with said idolist, was nothing to do with them both being "derivative" which everyone seems to be using to sound a lot more mature than they obviously are... it was to do with the cleanliness to music in general. thats what i'm not a big fan of anymore, don't get me wrong i used to. but i much prefer the swampier, dirtier blues. Of course all blues bands, rock n roll bands, psychedelic bands, fuck knows nearly every band going is at least partly derivative of an earlier incarnation. in fact i'm interested to see if there are any bands that come across as totally original... can't think of many british bands that are in the mainstream at least, no point naming fuckin joe bloggs round the corner who plays a teaspoon with his tongue.

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