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Gunslinger
not diehard enough Joined: Dec '11 Posts: 19 offline
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This is what I like to see on his second album:
* Trumpet, Clarinet,Soprano/Alto/Tenor/Baritone Saxophones
* Some vintage keys like Wurlitzer, Hammond B3, Fender Rhodes, Vox Continental, Clavinet
These instruments are perfect to record a great (but different) second album.
Musically, I'd like to hear a more rich record. Keep It Hid is a fantastic album for what it is, a minimal record, the follow up should be completely different imho.
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Gunslinger
not diehard enough Joined: Dec '11 Posts: 19 offline
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The first album was 100% low-fi/garage in pretty much everything, from the production to the mastering. When he'll be free to work on a second "solo" album the situation will be different, he already have enough resources to produce a biggerrecord.
Other than keyboard/horns players, a "backing band" composed by different musicians:
Drums: John Convertino
Guitar: Christian Bland
Piano/Vintage Keys: Matt Henry Cunitz
Bass Guitar: the guy from Hacienda (i don't remember his name)
This is a killer backing band, composed by fantastic musicians that can fit with Dan's style. Forget the Fast Five, the one above is an amazing band.
Or some (if not all) of the Lambchop's band members. Just think about one of these two as backing bands for Dan
I know I'm only dreaming.
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I am Incinerator
drunken admirer Joined: Oct '09 Posts: 549 offline
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How do you know that those parts would make "a great band"? You mean to tell me that The Fast Five wasn't a great band? The guys in Hacienda are very talented musicians. See them live, hear the records...the timing on Younger Days off of Big Red and Barbacoa is crazy, Dante can wail on the guitar and he gets into what he is doing on stage. Rene is all over the bass making it more than just a "rhythm section instrument". Abe and Jaime round out the musical landscape perfectly.
I would imagine Dan knows his shit when it came to selecting people for a backing band and what he wanted to accomplish for the sound, mood/vibe, chemistry, and interplay. I'm not huge into My Morning Jacket so I can't comment on Patrick and his drumming, but those MMJ dudes are great musicians in their own respect from what I've heard.
all that aside, I would love to see Patrick Keeler and Jack Lawrence bang out some tunes with Dan, or maybe Dan and Jonathan Wilson could work together?
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Gunslinger
not diehard enough Joined: Dec '11 Posts: 19 offline
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I am Incinerator - 3 minutes ago »
How do you know that those parts would make "a great band"?
Because they are great musicians, and you can't go wrong with them.
Dan can record 25 album with the members of Hacienda, of course, can i prefer other musicians ? After all, what we are here for ?
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I am Incinerator
drunken admirer Joined: Oct '09 Posts: 549 offline
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I know this was discussed in another thread somewhere, but just because they are great musicians does not mean that it would trnaslate into super cool band. There has been many a "supergroup" rock band that have taken complete nose dives, after seeming like a godsend in theory. I know I've played with some kick ass musicians that have left me saying "what the fuck was that?" after I left the jam session. I've played with several musicians that I could tell weren't quite as good as others, but I ended up coming away with a much better experience due to the vibe and interplay we had going on. I've been searching out a band for the better part of the last decade, just goes to show you that a group of great musicians does not equal a great band. Hell, I'm half-tempted to get a drum machine and call it good...works for the Kills, yah!
I'm no way discrediting your choice of musicians, because Christian Bland is GREAT, and you should know my affinity for Rene Villanueva (bass player from Hacienda). Not super familiar with the other two.
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Gunslinger
not diehard enough Joined: Dec '11 Posts: 19 offline
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I am Incinerator - 12 minutes ago »
I know this was discussed in another thread somewhere, but just because they are great musicians does not mean that it would trnaslate into super cool band. There has been many a "supergroup" rock band that have taken complete nose dives, after seeming like a godsend in theory. I know I've played with some kick ass musicians that have left me saying "what the fuck was that?" after I left the jam session. I've played with several musicians that I could tell weren't quite as good as others, but I ended up coming away with a much better experience due to the vibe and interplay we had going on. I've been searching out a band for the better part of the last decade, just goes to show you that a group of great musicians does not equal a great band. Hell, I'm half-tempted to get a drum machine and call it good...works for the Kills, yah!
I'm no way discrediting your choice of musicians, because Christian Bland is GREAT, and you should know my affinity for Rene Villanueva (bass player from Hacienda). Not super familiar with the other two.
I know what you mean and i agree with you when you "say just because they are great musicians does not mean that it would trnaslate into super cool band", but we aren't talking about musicians with big egos, they are all down to earth guys, they are not big heads like Jack White.
The other two musicians are the Calexico's drummer Convertino
and the organ player of the BrightBlack Morning Light Matt Henry Cunitz
What do you think about the Lambchop as a whole as backing band for an album ?
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Rollercoaster
drunken admirer Joined: Mar '10 Posts: 411 offline
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Gunslinger :"The first album was 100% low-fi/garage in pretty much everything, from the production to the mastering."
Keep it hid is not a lo-fi record at all, in my opinion. It's a mix between a vintage and a modern sounding production. Keep it hid was recorded with some of the finest gear possible.Certainly not lo-fi. TBCU is a good example of a lo-fi record. Recorded with a Casio digital recorder with a couple of mics, a fuzzpedal and an outboard reverb.
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pcerio
drunken admirer Joined: Oct '11 Posts: 259 offline
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I finally decided to check out "Keep It Hid". My Last Mistake is my favorite so far. I can relate to the sentiment behind the song.
Why can't trouble find a new friend?
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I am Incinerator
drunken admirer Joined: Oct '09 Posts: 549 offline
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Calexico is good stuff, not super familiar with them, but what I have heard makes me happy. Bright Black Morning Light, not really familiar with them at all...but I remember reading about them being in the same musicial circle as Devendra Banhart a few years back, not sure if they went in a different direction since, but music publications lump some of the weirdest stuff together. Never really heard of Lambchop, but it's on the list now.
I don't think Jack White has an ego that makes him hard to work with...I mean he's worked with tons of different people with successful results. I think he's just a tough nut to crack and marches to his own drumbeat. He seems to know who he is and what he is and wants to do.
I think the next Dan album should all be "I want Some More", "Heartbroken, in Disrepair", "Whispered Words"....all of the songs from Keep it Hid...definitely "Whispered Words" though...I love the production, sound, and vibe off of that tune.
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Gunslinger
not diehard enough Joined: Dec '11 Posts: 19 offline
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Rollercoaster - 1 day ago »
Gunslinger :"The first album was 100% low-fi/garage in pretty much everything, from the production to the mastering."
Keep it hid is not a lo-fi record at all, in my opinion. It's a mix between a vintage and a modern sounding production. Keep it hid was recorded with some of the finest gear possible.Certainly not lo-fi. TBCU is a good example of a lo-fi record. Recorded with a Casio digital recorder with a couple of mics, a fuzzpedal and an outboard reverb.
I don't know which kind of gear has been used to record the album, but the sound is certainly low-fi (the sound, not the construction of the songs).
For example, this songs seems recorded in a basement, with just one mic for the voice and all the instruments.
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Peter Blomkvist
drunken admirer Joined: Sep '09 Posts: 300 offline
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@Gunslinger
I gives you a great feeling thinking that it's lo-fi I guess, but that's pretty far from that.
The sounds are highly compressed and distorted, but it's kind of a big production (in black keys measurements).
Great record anyway....
"Practice what you preach"
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Gunslinger
not diehard enough Joined: Dec '11 Posts: 19 offline
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fruckin - 2 hours ago »
@Gunslinger
I gives you a great feeling thinking that it's lo-fi I guess, but that's pretty far from that.
The sounds are highly compressed and distorted, but it's kind of a big production (in black keys measurements).
Great record anyway....
Can you explain me the part about the great feeling ?
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Peter Blomkvist
drunken admirer Joined: Sep '09 Posts: 300 offline
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Well it seems like you like the "knowledge" of it beeing a lo-fo album, right?
But it's really not.
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Mirby 2.0
tour bus driver Joined: Apr '10 Posts: 3,575 offline
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All you old school fans should know this by now... it's not lo-fi. It's MEDIUM fidelity. Patrick Carney's trademark system. It involves equal parts hot ass shit to broke ass shit.
"When the power of Love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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Chris "Hokes" Dorgan
roadie Joined: Oct '09 Posts: 1,549 offline
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hmm my post about the heavy seems to have disappeared
"When the sweats dried in, It smells like Rock n Roll"
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