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El Camino review not so good, but we know this

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Well, this ain't Attack and Release. I was really devastated by Black Submarine, what happened to his voice. I guess the disappointment of hearing his real voice without the effects and squeezing of the dynamic range.

Anyway, it seems like its sort of analogous to not Stairway, but John Barleycorn by Traffic. In which case Barleycorn is always the better choice.

Lonely Boy seems to lift the chord stabs of Robert Palmer's Simply Irresistible and T. Rex. How this is inventive seems rather contrived and filler.

Look at a genius like Brian Wilson:
Brian] could take his incredible gift, combine it with a craft -- and not many people had that craft in pop music at that time ... and could be a mastermind because he knew music so thoroughly," he says. "The thing that was great about 'Pet Sounds' is here was a guy who could craft something that was almost symphonic. Before the Beatles, before 'Sgt. Pepper's,' he was already doing incredible things ... really expanding the boundaries of what rock and pop music could be."

What Brian had was an ability to combine established forms into something new, the kind of genre-bending that's a highlight of creativity

Whereas on this album at least, it seems more like Glee with fuzz. Terrible approximation of 60's soul and 70's glam. I'll take T. Rex

Great songs are written by great songwriters. Great song writers have artistic vision at can meld craft with balance of musical instruments and aptitude in understanding the dynamics of counterpoint and melody. This takes raw talent and good ears.
Bands that can do this make different and better records each time.

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Huh? Did you write this or copy it from somewhere?
Anyways, I'm inclined to agree the El Camino doesn't doesn't blow me away in terms of song writing or production... But how dare you slander Mr. Auerbach's golden voice!?
To any challengers I offer exhibit A:

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Well, its what I observed.

I know great voices, of course: Steve Mariott, Rod Stewart, Eric Burden, Otis Redding, Steven Stills, Chris Robinson, Neil Young (haunting,Chris Cornell, G L Philips, Scott Weiland, Roy Orbinson, Lennon, David Crosby, Dylan, Jakob Dylan, etc.

I would not pass honestly, if his demo crossed my desk based on the incompleteness of the structure. His voice is anything from golden, and it is evident that the plugins he uses for his voice attribute to the swampiness of his vocals. I could not decipher that this was even the same thing. The plugins do it intended job and cover up any of the unfriendly frequencies.

Try listening to John Barleycorn must die, or Many Miles to Freedom form Traffic
or Wondering Aloud by Jethro Tull of Aqualung.

I also detect a conscious or un use of Kurt Cobains squeezing at the end of words that Dan employs, it is something that i would advise an artist to not adopt or use sparingly, much like the over adopted Vocal nuances of Alonis Morisette, that many female vocalist in pop (Shakira).

Also, the 2nd theme of the song, the heavier electric part seems forced, and the rhythm guitar antiquated, not tight, and not a professional tight rhythm guitar pattern.

Overall, this was a really lack luster for performers who are widely revered, albeit by a money driven market.

As a musician myself, I often come up with great haunting melodies using common chords. Beyond the riff being of a lesser incomplete idea , then say Steve Windoood or Ian Anderson (Songs from the Wood) acoustic work.

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I typed in error. I mean, I would pass.

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What i mean to say, is that for anyone who was brought up listening to great performers, it is not uncommon, when the vibe is write, to come up with any interesting vibey melody against a static riff.this may seem unlikely a thing, for anyone who is not an artist and understands the fountain of ideas that sometimes can pour up. It takes immense dedication to honor the idea with better more thought out parts, if not get help from outside sources.

Unfortunately, this is only one of the beginning component to a song idea that must be often re-worked and the other parts upheld to the same sort of standard. As with anything, there are often better performers in any genre that are on the fringes of mainstream, that have deeper artistic vision and can translate it to recording and live.

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Woaw!

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ROTFLMAO! @ both clips.

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Cool. You don't dig these guys as much as us. Sorry about your damn luck.

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sounds an awful lot like the troll from awhile back slammin' the keys in favor of black crowes and some others and all that he knew about music....later dude

well...the look of the cake, it ain't, it ain't always the taste
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Please stop feeding the trolls.

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It's kinda fun to feed them sometimes.

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I wanna hear some of his great haunting melodies using common chords.

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we know you must be curious and not know where I am coming from based on the fact that you idolize a mediocre group when the stuff they draw on is better in every department. Poor mans copy with less artistic creativity, no consistent artistic vision. Just badly thought of , and badly played re-invented rock. I know 7 bands that have put their stamp on everything that's been done before, where the players are as good as session players. By the way, in the 1960's and 1970's , even a bit in the 80's the musicians were all as good as session players and many were where they played rock as good as jazz cats in a symphonic way. This sounds like karaoke or open mic, come on I know you must Hear this.

How can you substantiate your opinion on music when this is your reference point the Black Keys. How does this make any of your opinions about the level of talent or lack of , relevant. If indeed they are roots artists and not just amateurs following a trend (which the record companies love to sink money into), still in that line of reasoning-why wouldn't you just listen to the originators, You choose what you listen to based on your perceptions. You perceive that this is a revolution for blues music when it was really the choice that gave you, and the industry does not give a shit. You guys are played as pawns, and its a shame you don't use your ears and A B the differences.

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