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Does anyone know if Dan uses them with his bigsby? Could I get away with using a standard tune o matic? And if not, what are some good brands of roller bridges?

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Good question. Best I can tell, then answer is no. The tele looks like it uses the regular barrel saddles, and the supro almost definitely has the original bridge. Not as sure about the H77 or stratotone, but they don't look like rollers either (tbh I can't tell what bridge is on the stratotone, but it looks like one of those fixed intonation ones). Every freakin' H77 photo I've found he has his hand over the bridge, so that's the toughest one...it could be a roller but from the couple blurry ones I"ve seen I don't think it is. I'm obviously not 100% though so please take this with a grain of salt.

I have a casino with a bigsby and standard TOM and haven't broken any strings yet. However, I probably don't play as often as I should so your mileage may vary. A counterpoint to this is my guitar teacher, he ALWAYS puts rollers on his bigsbys, and tells me every month that I need to swap mine out.

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Yeah I found that same problem with the H77 (actually I think it's an H78) haha. I've been searching through videos but they always end up too blurry to get a good shot of the saddles. The guitar teacher thing bugs me though. In research, it looks like a lot of people just use the regular old TOMs. I know Dan usually just uses it for subtle vibrato, he's not doing crazy divebombs or anything, so maybe that plays a role.

I play every day for hours so it's gonna get a lot of mileage. I've read the schaller ones move side to side and mess up the string spacing when changing strings, so I definitely don't want that. I've seen some that look exactly like a tune o matic, but they've got string ends for saddles.

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Damnit, you're right, it is an H78 (because it has the bigsby, right?). I suck. Looking at these pics, the stock bridge was not a roller.

http://harmony.demont.net/model.php?id=220

But there's a couple of pics where you can see the top 3 strings of Dan's harmony, it definitely has a different bridge. But like you said, it's a little too blurry to tell if it's rollers or not.

Anyway, back to your situation, I'd probably just play it like it is, especially if you play heavier strings. Like you said, a lot of people play with regular TOMs and have no issues. If you start breaking strings left and right, you'll know you need to switch to a roller...

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I also noticed there's no tension bar on the H78? What's that about?

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Yeah I think I'm gonna keep it the way it is. I'm used to 10's, you think I should beef it up to 11 gauge?

hmm... upon looking at Dan's bridge, his seems to sit on top of a wood block. I think it's a rocker bridge?

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Danleary - 6 minutes ago  » 
I also noticed there's no tension bar on the H78? What's that about?

..and I just realized neither does the stratotone...

I'd just stick with the 10's, then tweak based on how you're feeling with it.

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pretty decent pic. I might just print some pics out and take them to the luthier when I have him set it up and dress the frets

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it's not a bar bridge because it has saddle screws
it's an archtop bridge, evidenced by the strip of wood that it sits in

So now it's just a matter of weather or not he's using rollers. I found this on crystal ballroom, can you make out what it is?

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edit: I suspect it might be this

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Archtop_guitar_bridges/Tune-o-matic_Bridge_For_Archtop_Guitar.html?tab=Pictures#details

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I think you got it. If that's not the right bridge, it's damn close. I still think he's using the floating regular TOM, and not rollers, based on the pics I've seen, but I'm not 100%.

I do wonder if he's using one of those rockers on the stratotone though...

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This guy on ultimate guitar forums is trying to tell me it won't fit on a 339 because the wood mount will make it too high. This doesn't make sense to me though because the H78 is basically a 335 clone, and a 339 is the same thing. That being said, the original bridge on the H78 was wooden, so I'm not saying he's wrong. It just seems fishy to me, what do you think?

Dunno about the stratotone. Seems different altogether

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Here's a picture of the stratotone bridge

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I think you could make something like that floating bridge work, but...the 339 (and 335 for that matter) already have fixed bridges. If you already got the screw holes in the body, why would you want to put a floating bridge on? Just one more thing to worry about when changing strings...

Nice pic of the stratotone bridge, that's what I thought it was. And sorry if I was confusing you, I knew it was different than the H78, was more just curious what it was.

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God, I went on ultimate guitar asking what kind of bridge was in the stratotone and the Supro, and everyone is saying "it's a bigsby." I swear, everyone on that site is retarded

As for the floating bridge, what exactly is a floating bridge, and how is stringing different? In those pictures, it just looks like the strings pass over the saddles, doesn't seem much different to me

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I'm thinking that the bridge on the H47 stratotone is a customised Bigsby rocker bridge.
The saddle ( is that what it's called...the piece of metal where the strings rest on? ) is from the Bigsby but the piece that's on the surface guitar is not original. ( sorry...english is not my first language ) I have a silvertone 1420, which is similar to a stratotone hollowbody and bought me a bigsby rocker bridge. ( they come with a wooden bridge original and they have very little sustain ) The bigsby rocker bridge is made for an archtop...its curved....and does not sit very well on a flattopguitar like a stratotone. I had some friend of mine make a new metal piece where the ...damn...don't know what it's called in english....the piece of metal that rests on the flattop of the guitar...my friend made me a flat piece and that's where the saddle? of the bigsby is on now. I'm guessing Dan had something like that done as well.

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