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The Black Keys' latest album, "El Camino," is out everywhere -- except Spotify, Rdio and Rhapsody.

The band's decision, first reported by Digital Music News, comes after Coldplay and Mac Miller made similar calls earlier this year to withhold their newest releases from streaming music services that give subscribers online access to millions of albums on demand -- either for free during a trial period or for a monthly fee.

The move highlights a fear among bands and music labels that having a new album available for streaming would result in lower sales.

Spotify has refuted this notion, saying music sales in aggregate tend to increase in markets where it introduces its service. Other music services have argued that streaming music actually helps listeners discover new songs that lead to purchases that would not have occurred otherwise.

MOG, a music streaming company based in Berkeley, confirmed the absence of "El Camino" on its service. "There are some artists, in this case the Black Keys, which ... restrict their content from streaming services," said MOG spokeswoman Marni Greenberg. "As always, we're just adhering to the requests of the content provider."

Spotify, which has about 10 million listeners worldwide, declined to comment on the Black Keys' decision.

When Coldplay froze Spotify and other services from the October debut of "Mylo Xyloto," the head of Spotify's U.S. operations, Ken Parks, issued the following statement to The Times:

We have strong support from the music industry, and of course respect the decision of any artist who chooses not to have their music on Spotify for whatever reason. We do however hope that they will change their minds, as we believe that the Spotify model is adding, and will continue to add, huge value to the music industry.

Coldplay is in an extreme minority of artists who did what they did. Right now we have already convinced millions of consumers to pay for music again, and they are generating real revenue for the music business. As we increase in scale, we will continue to re-educate millions of additional consumers as to the value of music, and we will thereby revitalize artists' ability to make music and make money from it.

Artists can -- and do -- receive very substantial revenues from Spotify, and as Spotify grows, these revenue streams will naturally continue to grow. Spotify is now the second single largest source of digital music revenue for labels in Europe, and we've driven more than $150 million of revenue to ... artists, publishers and labels since our launch three years ago.

A few bands or labels, it seems, haven't quite jumped on board. Part of the reason is that a song has to be played between 100 and 150 times on a streaming service in order to generate the same licensing revenue as a single download sale.

Posted 5 months ago #

Peter Blomkvist

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Spotify is killing music... Here in Sweden it's terrible... "If it's not on Spotify, then it doesn't exist"

Artists getting like NOTHING for their music... sucks...

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Agreed. Spotify gets rich and artists get as much as nothing.

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brucini

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@gunslinger pls add the article link too for future reference. ta.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/12/the-black-keys-latest-album-el-camino-is-out-everywhere-except-on-spotify-rdio-and-rhapsody-the-bands-decision-fi.html

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There's been alot of talk about Warner Bros (Nonesuch parent) banking on the Keys to sell a shitload of records (after Brothers) so I'm sure they put the kibosh on Spotify, Rhapsody, etc.

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$ ding! $ ding! $ ding!

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I may be wrong. I most definitely am. But it seems to me you won't let Spotify to stream your new album if you think it's not that good and it won't sell otherwise. Like, people will hear it and won't be that keen on buying it. It's sad.
Should say that I like El Camino, though (can't say "a lot", I guess).

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black keys response

http://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200#/news/black-keys-talk-el-camino-stream-free-strategy-1005671882.story

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The Black Keys drew attention for withholding new album "El Camino" from streaming services such as Spotify last week, and now the duo has offered an explanation.

"It's becoming more popular, but it still isn't at a point where you're able to replace royalties from record sales with the royalties from streams," drummer Patrick Carney told VH1. "So it felt unfair to people who purchased our album to allow people to just go on a website and stream the album for free whenever they wanted."

While Carney endorsed streaming services for younger bands seeking exposure, he said it didn't make financial sense for the Black Keys.

"For a band that makes a living selling music, it's not at a point yet to be feasible for us," he said. "It's set up to be a little bit more fair for the labels than it is for the artists, I think."

Carney didn't rule out joining the services in "a couple years." In the meantime, the Black Keys are among a handful of acts who have yet to embrace the digital development with their latest releases, including Coldplay, Mac Miller and Adele, whose top-selling "21" is only partially available for streaming.

The strategy doesn't seem to have hurt the Black Keys: the band is expected to land at No. 2 on this week's Billboard 200, with sales estimated above 150,000 -- more than double the 73,000-unit debut week of 2010's "Brothers."

The group's first headlining arena tour kicks off on March 2, with a second date recently added at New York City's Madison Square Garden after their initial date in the iconic venue sold out in 15 minutes.

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Peter Blomkvist

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Thumbs up on that!

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Sir_George

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I use Spotify to find rare B-Sides and such. But I agree with Patrick on that one.

To date: I've been a fan since early 2002 and I have attended 20 of their concerts and 2 of Dan's solo. I have also met Patrick quite a few times, but never Dan unfortunately. The Black Keys are a part of my soul.
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Wow! This was just... wow.

Thanks for posting TBK direct response to this topic. I was hoping to locate something "official" on the thinking behind this decision. Nothing like what comes straight from the horse's mouth.

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