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I agree with you. Perhaps if a session drummer and accomplished session guitarist who could compensate for the fact that there is no bottom end here. ZZ top would rip these guys apart. The drums and guitar don't do anything to elevate the groove. Without amplification it would sound like tinkering. Boy these guys got lucky. Apparently both have family in the music biz

what does that mean. You obviously dont take factual observations from someone who lied thru the 60s'. Are the Keys as good as Zep or ZZ Top -thats for you answer. Obviously, not! Are the Black heavier and create fuller music and more earnest than say the black Crowes---
Not making personal insults.

You are a listener, I am a player tours nationally as a guitarist. Most of them think like I do. No jealousy here.

??? Who would compare them to zeppelin or zz top? Those guys are a legend on their own and their music is wildly different. The Black Keys draw their inspiration from soul music, delta blues, and from captain beefheart (R.I.P).

Who gives a shit if they don't sound like this or that. I don't listen to the raconteurs because they sound as good as bla bla bla, and I sure as hell don't listen to the black keys because it's blues-rock music and they sound better than bla bla bla. I listen to them and love them for who they are, hard working musicians who can put a good record out. Take your comparisons elsewhere.

Who said they were saviors of rock n roll and blues? They're saviors to my ears for good music, I'd like to think any good rock n roll musician is a savior for the genre.

You are no one to say I need to "open my ears", I listen to plenty of damn good music.

You are not setting a very good view on yourself from the other forum users if this is your first thread on why the black keys are hipster groove wannabes. No welcome, no hi, no introduction post giving us background on who you are.

Congrats you lived through the 60's woohoo, I can't wonder how old you are and how immature you are to be arguing with an 18 year old. Get out

point is captain beefheart and trout mask replica are lauded for its bombastic and heaviness, and innovation. The drums in i got mine, if a real producer came in would augment the drummingso that it created somethingg musical (like moonie or Bonham and added bombacity to the mix. Instead its caddywhackin g drumming (whereu might as well have looped drum tracks. Again the instrumental prowess is what undermines what it could be. You guys should have an opportunity to here that song with a different mix and diffetn style of drumming--if you A/B'd it you'd see that it wanes in greatness.

Juest even btetter musicians emoting the same stuff would have a deeper impact on the listener , where Cream fans and hippies would come out to listen

maybe you ears have a penchant for grooves but within that the mediocreness of it alludes you. Same wih Jack White. Why should I listen to the Keys when I an listn to the real thing which is better? Why should I listen to Fleetfoxes when I can listen CSNY and Simon Garfunkle.
The Blac Crowes are so more real and creative , and better at their instruments than these guys. WHile not all of the crowes songs are hots, they all go somewhere and take the listener to the day sof great rock. Wheras the black Keys are a trend like Dave MAthews and Hootie. You swear its the real thing, but if you were a blues player,a dn had "producer" ears you would be really bored,and see that they are not tight rhythmically all the time and often dont count measures.

but its not about replicating dude. Its about adding your won spin but bowing your heads at the same time. These guys never read the book, just gleened at it and are making estimations son what good blues is under the fashionable guise of Hister Bump Blues.

It this simplistic because they cannot coopt a more fuller gratifying product-because they do not have the blues genre really. They suburbs kids who just learned their instruments and are limited. ALl my session player friens, and many producers feel the same way but annot ay anything about it