The Black Keys are my favorite band, hands down and I like Gnarls Barkley a lot even though I'm not all that into hip hop. When I first heard TBK were working with Dangermouse and Ike Turner I really dug the idea. When Ike died, and they decided to do their next record with Dangermouse producing I was into it. Then Attack and Release came out and it was good but... to me it didn't quite live up to their earlier efforts. One of the things I truelly love about TBK is their sparse production. To me, Attack was over produced. Still it was a good record, just not a great record. fast forward to 2010. For the past few months I've been reading everything on this site about the new album TBK recorded down in Muscle Shoals. And I was eagerly awaiting tne new release, and then... up pops the anouncement that there is a Dangermouse produced single on the new album. great. Does somebody at Nonesuch honestly think TBK need Dangermouse to sell a record? Because that's the kind of thinking Record Executives get at major labels. Or is this one of those situations where a lawyer decided to coerce the band into putting their clients name on the new album? Is there anybody out there besides me that doesn't think Dangermouse is the best thing to happen to the Black Keys? Bottom line- I'm still planning on buying the new record, but I'm alot less enthusiastic about it and probably won't be buying it when it first comes out. I may even wait til I can find it used.
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Too much Dangermouse
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The label has nothing to do with the pairing. Danger Mouse contacted them about doing the Ike record and THEY asked him to produce A&R. THEY also asked him to produce a track on this album. They like working with him and like what he brings to the table. They wouldnt release it if they did not like it. I dont think it is too much Danger Mouse at all. Id love it if they did another album together. I loved all the layers he helped bring to the table Posted 5 months ago #
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i hear a lot of people with this same opinion and personally i really enjoy both sides of their music. I definitely don't think they should drift away from their roots but they can't just do the same thing over and over. I wasn't at all disappointed by Attack and Release and I immediately liked Tighten Up. Plus its only one song off their new album that is produced by Dangermouse so I expect the rest will have a lower production level like their earlier stuff. Don't you think its possible that they just like working with Dangermouse considering the success they had working together and it isnt some scheme to sell more records? Its their music and their creativity and i'm not gunna be dissapointed just cus they arent doing exactly what i want. instead i am going to enjoy every second of it because all of their music is so great. I am very excited for the new album and will be buying it on May 18 and wouldnt call myself a fan if i didnt. "what have you got in that pipe, hashish?" Posted 5 months ago #
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I agree with Mike and Kepner. Dan stated in an interview that they didnt want to be pigeon holed as a blues band when they first started. Although I miss the good ole days i look forward to what the black keys are now producing. You cant ask a band not to grow, and ask them to stay the same. Thats what happens in top 40 land. Look at Sum 41 for example the new crap their putting out is just the old stuff with new lyrics... kind of retarted. I would hate to see the band stick to a formula because its worked in the past. Dan and Pat are amazing at anything they do and I for one will stick by my band no matter what. Because with their talent it dosent matter what type of music it is, it will be great. So enjoy the past and look forward to the future. Posted 5 months ago #
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as ive said before, they are also gettin older and growin up... bluesin out to fat rock n roll riffs is a young mans game... these two new songs ive heard r defo a more mature sound. i would love to hear some fat dirty riffs n im sure there will be some on the album but i also love soul n 70s n gospel n folk n americana n those two songs ive heard jst have that old school american sound n as i said before they are soundin almost like a different band, but i have no doubt that when it comes down to it live they will be the old black keys. honestly listenin to those two songs although initially i was a lil disappointed at the "lighteness" of them, the songs still appeal to me more than most other things im hearing at the moment. im a singer songwriter n so i can appreciate that writin rock n roll as i did with the hokes is ace, but i also love writin full on stories n acoustic rambles chilled out, so a band with such a wide varying taste in music and now in a position wer they can probably dictate a lil more of what they wanna do they are of course going to want to experiment a bit. oh btw... i no its self advertising, but ive put a new song up on youtube, theres a few problems with it timing issues etc but we ran out of time in the studio lol let me no wot yas think....
"When the sweats dried in, It smells like Rock n Roll" Posted 5 months ago #
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massive fan offline |
If you want Thickfreakness, go back and listen to it. That's the great thing about music - once its released, it doesn't go away. I'm excited for the new shit, but if I somehow end up disappointed by it (doubt that will happen) I can always go back to their older records and re-live the glory days. Of COURSE they're going to try new things. There's an old saying, and I can't recall the exact wording but it basically says that by the time you hear a band's new album, they are already way past that and experimenting with making different music. Constant evolution. The only constant is change. Posted 5 months ago #
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good point stingy, there was an interview on here that somebody linked to where pat said that they already had two more albums ready to go. so if we think this is different then what are they like? Late at night write something cool in here that people will appreciate. Posted 5 months ago #
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I'm not saying they shouldn't try new things. I'm just saying they DID their Dangermouse record already, and I was really looking forward to hearing their work with a NEW producer. I know they can't keep making the same record the same way they did in their basement (personally, I really liked Magic Potion and Keep It Hid) I'm all for them trying new things. But the way that the new single was released makes me wonder if it WAS entirely their choice. I think it's naive to believe that TBK enjoy the same creative control over their product at Nonesuch that they had previously at smaller labels. I sincerely doubt that's how Nonesuch works. Posted 5 months ago #
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i suppose promotion or lawyer pushiness or anything like that creative control and whatever. If pat and dan didnt enjoy themselves making the music then they wouldnt get anywhere surely? and they did go after dangermouse, so i guess thats that. i agree that a smaller label would give them more freedom but less promotion in the end. If they did an album with dangermouse in the basement would that be better? Posted 5 months ago #
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Hey Mike, you and I are headed for a throw-down pal. And I think "maturing" is the key word here. They are maturing as people and musicians. One thing I've always found irritating is people who as a blanket policy "only like the old stuff" from their favorite band. Personally I dig A&R much more than Magic Potion. I really don't like listening to Magic Potion or The Big Come Up from start to finish, but I can do it with all the others. That's not a judgment on new vs. old, but imo "good" vs. "bad" (or at least great vs. good, right?) "Since huge quantities of information can be computer-digitalized and transmitted, music researchers could, for example, swap records over the Net with "essentially perfect fidelity." - Rolling Stone, December 7, 1972 Posted 5 months ago #
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well i suppose its an influences thing? i love the blues and the old blues guys and i'm really into that style so i love all the old stuff including magic potion. everything up to attack and release was an instant fav in my eyes or ears maybe? no doubt straight up, just one listen and yep thats the best shit there is. A+R took more adjusting as it was more elaborate but i still loved it, had it in my cd player everywhere for i think about a month and a half near on exclusively. and i always go back to it. i tend to see A+R as a less rocky album though. I'll be rocking the shit out of the old stuff on a long trip and then need to chill a bit and i can cruise to A+R then. Only the thing is then that the A+R tracks are some of my big time fav's of the live show. so i ranted away just now got lost and in the process discovered something that maybe dangermouse wasnt the best thing? i seriously enjoyed the album it was very good. Tighten Up is by far my favourite "studio" song produced by dangermouse. But the live versions of all the A+R songs are 20 million times better when its dan and pat just belting the absolute F**K out of them! do i have a hell yeah with that? interesting to see who prefers A+R studio versions to live versions? what i was originally getting at is Mike above^ do you like old blues stuff and all that sort of gear? what are your other influences? Posted 5 months ago #
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i love it when live shows are raw. personally go in the studio have a laugh with varied instruments do all you can in the studio to create an atmosphere for the album im all for that. but live baby keep that shit stripped down and you will see the pure soul of a song. if it doesnt work stripped down then the song shouldnt be masked with layers only layer something thats already brilliant. for example a couple of my songs i love playin on the acoustic n then when we play it live its like kaboom mother licker eat that corner of fender deville amp action. but then i also have lots n lots n lots of songs that i play on acoustic n they jst borin n samey! i loved A n R specially wen a lil "smashed" gave you more to listen to when chillin. But live man the songs dont lose anything they r jst out n out rock n roll man awesome the last gig we went to was immense n ma mate actually preffered live psychotic girl to the album one. personally i dont do favourite versions coz they r all good songs an each version feeds the ears differently! Posted 5 months ago #
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TBK has 100% control over what they play and what they record. Posted 5 months ago #
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massive fan offline |
I believe the last comment, I think that they are playing and writing what they want with little interference from anyone else. I DO believe that Nonesuch or their manager or they have decided to push themselves a bit more, theyre playing with Pearl Jam and Kings of Leon coming up, and theyve released that attempt at a viral video (which I really like because it is not something that would be mainstream, imo) Or maybe its just a big coincidence. After all we like this band, why cant everyone else? Regardless my point is I dont feel that they are selling out, they are growing and pursuing a direction they want to. And I for one enjoy and appreciate the originality. Posted 5 months ago #
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They have opened for big acts before. If you;ve watched the video they have opened for Radiohead and Beck amoung others Posted 5 months ago #
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